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Proclamation 1105
Nung kamakailang lunes ng hapon ay ipinatawag ng boss ang buong department para sa isang meeting (ito ay pagkatapos i-announce ng presidente noong umaga na mukhang walang bonus ang ahensya ngayong taon, kaya medyo matamlay ang pakiramdam ng lahat).
Pagpasok ng boss ay may hawak na papel. akala nila ay kung anu-anong papeles lang yun. Nguni't nagulat sila nang nagumpisang basahin ng boss ang nakasulat sa papel.
Aba, may script ang kanyang pagse-sermon (o pagbu-bula ika nga ng mga bading). Natulala ang mga tao. Hindi sila makapaniwala. Hindi nila alam kung matatawa sila o makikinig (siguro hindi nga siya katoliko dahil hindi niya alam na, sa pilipinas, pari lang ang nagbabasa ng sermon).
Nagagalit daw siya dahil nakakita daw siya ng taong naga-ahit sa banyo sa umaga. Naiirita daw siyang makakakita ng nag-gy-gym. At kung anu-ano pang mga nakakalokang hirit na siningitan niya ng mga murang may "fuck" o "fucking" (siguro akala niya ay dadagdag ito sa dramatic effect ng kanyang script)
Base sa kanyang mga obersbasyon sa mga nakaraang buwan, mayroon daw siyang mga bagong patakaran na binansagan kong proclamation 1105 (alang-alang sa yumaong presidente, na tila gusto niyang sundan)
1) bawal ang magahit sa banyo pagkatapos ng 9am
2) bawal ang magsipilyo pagkatapos ng 9am at 1:30pm
3) bawal manood ng mga tv show sa computer
4) lahat ng mga tao ay dapat nasa opisina ng 9am, ang mala-late ay kakaltasan ng half-day leave
Kung hindi ito masunod, iqu-quote ko ang sinabi niya
"I will tear another fucking asshole in you"
Higit kumulang ng 7 ang mga kanyang binitiwang mga mura. nguni't sa huli ay lumabas din ang pakay ng kanyang "sermon" ng sinabi niyang
"I have a two year contract with the agency ... part of the evaluation of my performance includes winning awards"
Sa madaling salita, kayo ang magta-trabaho para sa akin para sumikat ako.
Wanna read more? Point your browsers to http://clayoawards.blogspot.com/. Wala akong masabe.
96 comments
I know who this person is. And just like the recently departed (meaning HK-bound, not dead) ECD of another creative hotshop, he is simply here to make a name for himself, at the expense of Filipino creatives.
mga taga-Lowe,
Eh kung ayaw niyo umalis kayo.
pinoy creative,
Yung tinutukoy mo also helped put Pinas on the map. Eh, ikaw? Why at the expense of Filipino Creatives? Diba kayo natuto sa Ogilvy? Then I guess useless and transfer of knowledge sa 'yo. Di ka pala natuto. Useless ka din sa Ahensiya mo kung ganun. Masyadong mataas ang sweldo mo kung anu man yun kung hindi mo naintindihan.
Problema kasi ay akala ng lahat na ang trabaho nila ay karapatan nila. Mga tita you must earn your job.
Obviously Tsismax thrives on the misery of others as the Header says Tsismax loves the posted blog.
Tsk tsk. Such great reporting as they only see things from one side and did not even bother to check the other side of the coin.
What professionalism. I hope they take this to work.
Oh and they seem hellbent on castigating our foreign friends but fail to even point out the corruption in the big agencies instigated by locals. Need I mention the head of one whose name appears along the partners in a declining creative agency who stole money in the millions from a previous agency and espouses moral values like prayer at work while he seeks young boys at night?
kontra tsismax,
What you exhibit is colonial mentality at its worst. You are implying Filipino creatives would be nothing without foreign help. That we cannot learn on our own.
Bajeezers. You're a throwback to Spanish times. In your mind, you still see yourself as an Indio.
What a shame.
kontra tsismax,
Masasabi ko lang napaka-tanga at babaw mo. Bilib na bilib ka sa "foreyngers" eh wala naman silang ipinanalong Gold ano.
Anong they put the Philippines on the map? Gunggung ka!
First Clio bronze ng Philippines sa David Guerrero nagpanalo.
First Adfest Gold ng Philippines si Edsel Tolentino at Shiela Dela Cuesta nagpanalo.
First Clio Gold ng Philippines si Leigh Reyes at Trisha Uy nagpanalo.
First Cannes Gold ng Philippines si Brandie Tan at Tin Sanchez nagpanalo.
First Young Lions Silver ng Philippines si Nonie Tobias at Mela Advincula nagpanalo.
Pinoy Creative is right, you are still an Indio in your mind and in your heart which you should be ashamed for.
Filipinos are Xenophobes
Tsismax is Filipino Racism at its best!
Keep up the good work guys!
Anonymous,
Before you spew out your stupidity all over the internet, I suggest you study evolutionary socio-psychology.
By nature all groups of people are xenophobic of other groups of people. It's an evolutionary mechanism stemming from human beings' tribal beginnings.
So your statement that Filipinos are xenophobes only betrays your ignorance and your own xenophobia. Or worse, your blatant racism.
Go Pinoy,
Galing niyo po talaga. Di niyo po napansin na ang mga nananalo may connection sa mga Expat? dahil mas bukas ang isip nila at either trained sila ng Expat o under supervision ng isa. Sino kaya ang pinuno ng JWT nung nanalo ng Gold?
tsismax is racist,
Since when did being proud of one's own abilities and heritage become racist?
You obviously don't know what racism means in its strict definition.
Fuck all the foreigners!
Deport them.
define racism oh intelligent one
kontra tsismax,
JWT ECD - Dave Ferrer
Y&R ECD - Leigh Reyes
BBDO ECD - David Guerrero
Again, you've just shoved your other foot in your mouth.
And again, you're an Indio. Not YET a Filipino.
anonyme,
You know how to use the internet. You can find it for yourself. Or are you so inutile I have to spoonfeed it you?
Screw you Anonyme!
Bow at my superiority. I am Filipino and proud. No foreigner is better than I. Neither than any any Filipino for that matter. I am so Filipino I choose to write in English just to flaunt my superiority over you lower Filipinos.
Go Pinoy!
Tama po kayo at mali ako.
Pahingi po ng paumanhin. Indio lang po ako. Di karapat dapat na tawagin Filipino tulad niyo.
hahahahahaha!
Bow at my feet you stupid Indio.
Suck my huge 3 inch dick!
Sori po kasi akala ko po si
David Guerrero na train sa labas
Dave Ferrer at yung Gold winning team na train ni David Guerrero at sa pagtulak ni Matt Seddon
at Yung sa Y&R akala ko collaboration sama ang mga award-winning Malaysians
kontra tsismax,
You of all people know that an ECD is only as good as the people working under him.
My point is, with or without foreign ECD's it was only a matter of time before Filipinos caught up with the rest of the world.
Foreign ECD's may have speeded up the process but to credit them entirely is just plain simplistic and smacks of colonial mentality.
I suggest you start believing in your own abilites for your own sake.
pinoy creative and go pinoy,
thank you for debasing the level of this esteemed blog by name-calling and bashing others.
Kung kaya po ng local ECD ba't kaunti lang ang hakot kumpara sa iba?
Baka hindi ang mga creatives ang may problema kundi ang kanilang mga lider?
Kasi kung tama ang sinasabi niyo ba't nangyayari ang panalo kung may lider na afam?
Nasaan po ang Pinas kumpara sa ibang SEA sa advertising awards?
INDIO! ulol.
You can't even write in English.
lastikman,
Define "esteemed." Wrong choice of word. And if you are perceptive enough, you'll notice someone's merely highjacking my nick.
kontra tsismax,
You are taking a narrow view of things, I noticed.
Thailand, India, Singapore and Malaysia have catapulted themselves ahead of us simply because the global ad agencies and their holding companies have larger stakes in those markets. Hence, they sought to develop the creative reputations of those countries, pressuring local agencies there to up the ante, so to speak, to gain a higher profile.
Economically (and you can ask any economist or banker), we are at the same level as that of Vietnam and Indonesia. And so creatively we are also at the same level as they are (though we're slightly ahead now). Meaning, our country is not a priority in the agenda of global agencies and their holding companies.
These are all business decisions and it has nothing to do with creativity no matter how you wax romantic about it.
Now, on the point of the Philippines winning because of foreign creative leaders, again, who set the standards for global creative awards, anyway?
The west. We are following western standards by virtue of their being more dominant globally.
So it is natural for foreign creatives to know the game because they were the ones who set the rules of the game in the first place.
Again, my point, which you keep missing is, don't be too enamoured with foreign talent.
Talent knows no boundaries. Pinoys have talent and we are great at what we do.
You are missing the point if you set your standards according to what the west has set.
Creativity is creativity no matter where you go, it just has different faces. Pinoy creativity is neither inferior nor superior to anyone elese's. Same with western creativity. It is neither inferior nor superior to Pinoy creativity.
Broaden your mind on what creativity is. If you don't, you'll be shackled by your narrow views until the end of your career and ultimately, you're robbing yourself the opportunity to become greater than who you are right now.
It would also be good if Tsismax covers other tsisms as well.
Like the one mentioned by Joe. We all know the one he is talking about. A pillar of the industry. Couples for Christ. Married. And into little boys. Or rather, inside them, if you catch my drift.
Heard he also took some millions from a celebrity talent as he used the talent for a TVC.
What would you call that behavior by a pillar of the industry?
Bos go pinoy! diba entitled po ako sa opinyon ko?
Tulad niyo. Ngayon sa mga facts na nakikita ko parang may co-relation ang foreign transfer of knowledge sa progress natin. Kahit sa ibang larangan po. Eh kung ganun po ang tingin ko bawal po ba? Kayo ang tingin niyo kaya ng Pinoy na mag-isa eh karapatan ko yun. Pero di ko naman kayo ininsulto sa pananaw niyo diba. Kayo po ba diba sa tono niyo ang labas parang mababa ang tingin niyo po sa 'kin. Alam ko po na 'di ako magaling sa Ingles tulad niyo. Pero alam ko po naman na may karapatan naman ako sa paniniwala ko.
Diba po ang Indonesia gumagawa ng eroplano? Tayo kaya kailan?
At ba't niyo po binabalik sa akin sa salita niyong "for your own sake"
Pinapalabas niyo na mas magaling kayo sa akin at kayo lang po ang marunong. Dahil po ba mas magaling kayo mag-ingles?
Sinasabi niyo na maka Pilipino pa naman kayo.
Di ko naman kayo ininsulto. Ba't ganun po kayo kung makatawag na Indio. Diba kahit sa panahon ni Rizal may mga tawag sa inyo? Yung Dona anu po ba ang pangalan niya na naka pulbos?
kontra tsismax,
I am trying to win you over because you are Filipino, too (despite me calling you indio earlier and I apologize for that).
I would leave you to your sorry thinking if you were not Filipino but I do not wish for my fellow Filipinos to think so lowly of themselves and put foreigners on a pedestal.
If I failed to change your views then so be it, continue believing that foreigners should be credited for whatever progress Filipinos achieve, creatively or economically.
It's just like saying we're a bunch of neanderthals and foreigners are the true homo sapiens.
And by the way, Indonesia has shuttered their aerospace dreams after discovering they have no market to sell their airplanes to.
Alam niyo po bakit may kasama pang insulto ang apology niyo. Diba po pagtatalakayan po eto? Paano ko matatanggap po ang sabi niyo kung handa na kayo na tawagin akong Indio na kapwa mong Pilipino kung di lang sang-ayon sa inyo ang pananaw ko.
Sinabi ko ba na sinasamba ko ang mga afam? Napuna ko lang po na kinakailangan ang mga ideya ng iba t ibang kultura para umangat tayo. Mas madali po ba na umangat kung pare-pareho ang pag-iisip? O kung may mag pasok ng pag-iisip na kakaiba sa iniisip natin.
Di niyo po napansin na minsan parang pare-pareho na ang mga patalastas?
Ang tingin ko po kasi sa galing natin manggaya di na natin alam kung sino talaga tayo.
Nagbitaw na po kayo ng salita at di ko matatanggap ang apology niyo. Sa tingin ko po mas masahol pa ang Pilipino na ang tingin sa sarili mas mataas sa kapwa niyang Pinoy.
" joe said...
Obviously Tsismax thrives on the misery of others as the Header says Tsismax loves the posted blog."
Yes we do love the blog because it comes out sincere and true. Somehow we empathize with the things they are going through. But we do know there's a flip-side to that coin.
Would the ECD in question point us to a blog or an article we could quote? If we find merit in it we will say "TSISMAX also HEARTS THIS BLOG." For now we don't see anything "lovable" about the guy except maybe his dedication to raise the LOWE business at whatever cost. But our heart always goes to the oppressed. Kung pinoy ka maaawa ka talaga eh. Magpapa-meeting tapos magmumura? Bawal mag-shave? Tama ba yun?
Re the Pinoy who stole millions and is fond of "little" boys, kindly enlighten us some more. We are VERY interested.
Just to add we don't hate foreigners and in fact we are grateful for their HELP in putting the Filipino creatives on the map. But please let's not take away the "pinoy pride" of our winning local talents. They very much deserve it naman di po ba?
kontra tsismax,
You didn't have to say outright you're worshipping foreigners but your postings drip with worship for them.
And aren't you contradicting yourself when you say because Filipinos keep mimicking, we no longer know ourselves? Yet you keep looking at other cultures, foreign ideas and foreign creative leaders for inspiration instead of drawing something from within your own culture.
How will you find yourself if you keep looking outwardly instead of inwardly? Since what we do is mostly art, you very well know that the most powerful artworks, be they literature or visual arts, have been drawn from the artist's own experiences and his own interpretation of the world
Are you saying to know ourselves we must look at other cultures?
It's contradictory and doesn't make sense any way you look at it.
How can our ads look fresh and quirky to anyone's eyes, especially foreigners judging them in global awards competitions, if what they see are the same things they see from where the came from?
Think about it.
And please, don't go all looking pitiful and oppressed. It's so typical again of the submissive colonial mindset of the past.
You reap what you sow.
It's you who caused yourself to be put in his proper place. You started off on the wrong foot so better be prepared to have people call you names.
You started off with all guns blazing, blasting Filipino pride and talent while praising foreign talent to high heavens.
It grates at the nerves to see Filipinos like you mocking their own. Hence, I have referred to you as someone lower than any Filipino for how can you stomach to mock your own kind?
And I am writing in English so that any foreigner reading this will understand that not all Filipino creatives have put them on a pedestal.
At least not like how you've put them on one.
Kayo po ang magaling. At magaling din po sa pag trato sa mga tao.
Kaya 'wag po kayo mag apologize na tawagan akong Indio kasi yun ang tingin niyo naman sa mga Pilipino na mas mabababa sa inyo.
How sad it is to see arrogance of a Filipino such as yours, go pinoy! have you truly found yourself? What have you done to show for it?
Personally, aminado ako na di ko pa naabot ang taas niyo bilang isang hamak na manunulat. Anu ang nagawa ninyo para sa sambayanan Pilipino para masabi na totoo ang sinasabi niyo?
Basahin niyo ang mga comments ko dahil pinipili niyo ang gusto niyo lang makita para ipalabas na alipin ako. Pero halata naman po na mababa ang trato niyo sa mga mas mababa sa inyo sa buhay.
Anu po ang kasabihan na galing sa kanluran? "Pride comes before..."
kontra tsismax,
Just had a dose of your own medicine and you deserve it.
Imagine, telling Lowe people to leave the agency if they can't stand their foreign ECD.
That's easier said than done and is a typical comment of people with narrow views and shallow thinking.
And please, don't digress. I still think you're an idiot fpr thinking foreigners are needed to uplift the Philippines, creatively or otherwise.
Now I'm going to tell you what you told the people from Lowe:
If you can't stand this country and you so badly need foreigners to help uplift your own sorry situation, then leave.
Go migrate some place else because this country would do better without people like you who not only think so lowly of themselves but of their country as well.
IMHO it seems that this post thrives on trashy journalism that caters to the lowest common denominator.
Have been going through the other comments and I must ask go pinoy!
You have not answered some questions directed to you. Like what have you done to merit being the authority here?
Just a question, man.
And IMHO bullying is not the answer.
Peace ;)
in terms of potential for great work, i think that it doesnt matter much if the creatives are foreigners or not. however, it also wont hurt to admit that many foreigners get better training than us filipinos.
i am not putting our race down. its not like we cant do what they do given the same resources that they have. im just saying that many of these foreigners have seen more things than the usual ad person -- and it wouldnt hurt to recognize that many of us (me included) fall short when it comes to that matter.
again, i think we filipinos have a very big potential for greatness, but i also think we can reach that goal faster by acquiring help from other people.
peace tayo. noob ako eh
Funny to see you agency guys fight. You all think that what you're doing is really important work eh? Or that the awards that you get actually matter to anyone other than you and your overblown egos. LOL!
You so badly need the recognition because you are nothing but mere peddlers of forgettable 30 seconder trash. And when you do come up with that very rare memorable material, it is still doesn't get noticed by anyone other than your momma- and only because you forced her to stay for the ad break instead of going to the toilet.
And to think that you spent days on this material writing three lines of copy (a very difficult task I imagine), or choosing the right font for the supers (a 5th grader can also do this). And of course even more difficult was producing this material which means being in the shoot, pretending like your presence is what will make this material work and fuzzing over and complaining about the tiniest things like "paayos ng hair, collar, makeup", "bakit di masarap ang food", "bakit late ang sevice".
Yes you guys are doing something really important. You allow us in the production to become rich while we humor you and encourage your delusions of grandeur. We call you sir's and ma'am's and take care of you and feed you and give you service that's fit for a king because we know that on your own, you can never afford them.
And to stay on topic, yes I also heart this blog.
Good day sir's and ma'am's. LOL
@hiro
the awards matter. it may not matter to you or to most people, but it does matter to people who are in the same field. even the production side has this sort of stuff.
i agree so many people in the agencies have overblown egos and act like they're on top of the social ladder, but i wouldnt say most of the ad people are like that; and sure you may think that ad agencies have easy work coming up with seemingly lame ideas, but there's a reason why the ad industry has become as big as it is today.
i think you judge advertising people prematurely. while you were quite accurate in describing some of your sir's and ma'am's, and i do agree that some are like that, i dont think that the creative works of many talented people in the industry should be dismissed just like that.
@hiro - isa lang masasabi ko. ouch you ingrate. for a guy who's getting paid mucho much to kiss our asses, you sound so awfully bitter. LOL.
+1 with anonymous on the fact that Hiro is an over paid ingrate. I am willing to bet too that two-faced Hiro also does not give it his all so aside from harboring dissent Hiro also does sub-par work. Why so? Because when you are to busy focusing on what Hiro does you tend to forget the big picture and merely coast. Could that be why the work coming from local production houses are the so-so stuff we see? Same as what we have decades ago?
BTT: It is saddening to see that the industry has boiled down to this. Could this be what is holding it back?
Since people seem more concerned about taking each other down than they are creating good work. Same goes for the blogger from Lowe.
Tsk tsk.
i agree with two cents...
no to backstabbing. those things that are internal should stay internal, and if you dont have the guts to say what you think face to face, i think that its better to not say anything at all.
as for wanting to take each other down, i think most of us have this mentality of wanting to be the biggest fish in a small pond.
Drama naman ng mga postings. It's only advertising, guys.
Saka pare-pareho ang mga creative kahit saang parte ng mundo. You only have to read advertising blogs from elsewhere, especially the UK and US, parehong-pareho, lahat magaling, lahat may opinion.
It all boils down to ego naman eh. Anyways, gotta work!
Nice to read some tsismis here although there's really no big deal. OA lang ang ibang tao.
Yehey! May bonus na! Inuman na!
hohum said...
Yehey! May bonus na! Inuman na!
'Yan. Classic trait ng mga nasa advertising na walang pakialam kundi ang sumweldo lang sila. Magpakalunod ka so you won't remember how pathetic an advertising person you are.
anonymous,
Ang asim! May hindi yata naambunan ng bonus kasi kaka-post dito, walang kinikita ang ahensiya, hahahaha!
And why sobra mo bang love ang advertising at nagtratrabaho ka ng walang bayad?
Aba eh mas pathetic ka, hahaha!
And I suppose you do it for the love of the brands you work on? To satisfy your artistic urges?
Let's not kid ourselves, it is only advertising. We're not saving lives or creating timeless masterpieces.
Fine - do good work, sell some products, win some awards. But to insult someone because he's happy to get a little extra something for the holidays? You sir, are either delusional or a hyprocrite.
That is all.
Naunahan ako. That was for anonymous.
Ang asim nga ni anonymous!
Baka nga naghihirap ang ahensiya nya kasi puro award at pa-art masyado tingin sa advertising pero talo naman sa mga pitch kaya ayan, walang bonus at nagmamaasim.
Hoy, hindi ganun ka-importante ang mga ad people in the larger scheme of things. Kahit mismo si Neil French, he doesn't take his job too seriously, you can ask Ogilvy people who've met him.
Nice to see that there are still some level-headed agency people around. And that there are still some who have a realistic POV of their place in the larger scheme of things.
To you sir's and ma'am's, enjoy your bonuses and most specially enjoy life.
To the delusional creatives like Mr. Anonymous, "time to get a life, sir/ma'am." LOL
Hindi po ako taga-advertising, may kaibigan lang akong nagtratrabaho sa ad agency pero hindi ko maintindihan ginagawa niya kaya napadpad ako sa blog na ito para maintindihan kung ano ang advertising.
Bakit nag-aaway kayo eh taga-gawa lang naman kayo ng mga komersyal diba? Bakit parang ang seryoso nung iba? Sa totoo lang wala namang nanonood ng mga komersyal kasi nakakabagot, nanonood ka biglang magko-komersyal kaya ang ginagawa ko nililipat ko muna yung channel hanggang matapos yung komersyal.
Ano nga pala yung mga award? May award ang advertising? Nge! Bakit aawardan yung mga komersyal eh di ba dapat sine lang ang may award?
Wala ka namang mapupulot sa mga komersyal diba? Maaaliw ka paminsan pero kung aliw din lang eh di manonood na lang ako ng wowowee, mas sumasakit pa ang tiyan ko kakatawa kesa sa komersyal.
Ang gusto ko lang komersyal sa ngayon yung kay Jet Li. Yun, ayos at least may konting aksyon.
Okey din yung tumatakbong babae at lalaki na naka-jeans, nakakaaliw din panoorin yun pero karamihan ng nasa TV hindi ko talaga pinapanood.
Nakakagulat lang at ang lalalalim magsulat nung iba rito at mawalang-galang na, may mga epal pa, akala mo kung sino mang-away ng iba, gumagawa lang naman ng komersyal.
Wag kayong magalit sa akin, hindi ko lang maintindihan talaga ano pinag-aawayan ninyo eh napakaliit na bagay lang naman ng pag-aadvertising diba?
magtatagalog nalang ako mga boss ha.
simple lang ang gusto ko sabihin... career kasi ang advertising. normal lang naman kasi na gustuhin na mag excel sa trabaho, kahit sa tingin nyo napakaliit. ikumpara nyo nalang sa honors sa eskwela. di naman talaga malaking tulong yun, pero bakit andaming nag aaral ng maigi para sa honors?
kanya kanya lang yan mga tsong. wala naman masama maging devoted sa trabaho, yun nga lang pag nanchichismis ka na dahil dun, patay na.
ika nga ng fita, 'to the child it is not a game'. just think of us as little children. hehehe
i think awards are big enough to be proud of, but too small to fight over. tama yung mga tao dyan eh - bakit pa kayo nag aaway e may bonus na nga.
Friends,
Ceasefire muna until next year na lang? Spread the love. Merry Christmas to you all! Cheers!
Agree, kahit papaano, career natin ito. Of course it's natural we would want to excel.
I'm proud of the awards i've won. Even more proud that it was for a real ad that came out for a big brand.
Will i do a scam ad if I think it will win big? Most probably.
What i will never do is steal an idea, take credit for other people's work or step on my friends to get to the top.
There is so much more to life then work - and I would say this not just to ad people but to clients, lawyers, doctors, athletes, etc.
I really do feel sorry for people who's only joy in life comes from working in advertising. Relax! Have a drink with the guy who got his bonus. It might just do you some good.
tsismax said...
Friends,
Ceasefire muna until next year na lang? Spread the love. Merry Christmas to you all! Cheers!
Agree. Merry Christmas!
NEWS FLASH: Nanalo si Lou dela Pena of TBWA/Tequila Singapore as Asia Business Devt person of the Year ng MEDIA mag sa HK
Balita po ay nung nagkita si Tong Puno at Lou more than a year ago sa isang regional meeting minata ni Tong si Lou. Sabi ay may-ari siya ng ahensiya at si Lou hamak na empleyado lang. Nasaan na pala ang TBWA manila ngayon?
Ay ang gulong ng palad.
Sad is the state of things when people are motivated by money than by passion. This holds true for any endeavor and is the reason why fields such as sports do not have the stars they used to have.
peace :)
to the brave anonymous who said there is more to our craft than just a job and money do not worry about the detractors. they are more the liability of their respective agencies than a liability to you. their attitude reflects their character and their values. not yours. keep the fire burning anonymous.
So devil's advocate,
What is more to advertising? What altruistic flim-flam does advertising serve?
The ball's on your court. Let's play.
devil's advocate said...
to the brave anonymous who said there is more to our craft than just a job and money do not worry about the detractors. they are more the liability of their respective agencies than a liability to you. their attitude reflects their character and their values. not yours. keep the fire burning anonymous.
i totally agree. advertising is not just a job. it is a higher calling. only the most talented and most creative people deserve to work in advertising. :P
i think you are seeing things in black & white too much. parang on one hand, you have the greedy workers who only care about getting paid. then on the other hand you have the noble servants of the craft who would even work in an agency for free!
while i'm sure there are a lot of those two kinds in the industry , i think most would probably fall somewhere in between: yes, we are passionate about our jobs - but we do have to worry about feeding our kids and paying the rent and eating and such.
not everyone has daddy's money to fall back on you know ;)
wow!!! "higher calling." parang priesthood.
"only the most creative and most talented people deserve to work in advertising." patay tayo dito. daming matatanggal sa trabaho pag nagkataon.
agency conceit nga naman. LOL
On the contrary, ang mga nagwowork sa advertising ay hindi ang most talented at most creative people you can find.
In fact, ang mga nasa advertising latak lang. Mga half-baked ang talento kaya napadpad sa pag-aadvertising.
Most aren't great at anything. Medyo magaling sa art, medyo magaling sa pagsulat pero not really that great.
Kaya kayong mga nag-iilusyon na ang gagaling ninyo at ang tatalino ninyo dahil nasa advertising kayo, wake up!
Gumising na kayo sa katotohanan that advertising is not an art. It's a business that uses art as its tool and not the other way around.
advertising is art. it is pop culture.
lastikman,
Yeah, right. Wallow in your delusions of being an "artiste."
Anonymous said...
wow!!! "higher calling." parang priesthood.
"only the most creative and most talented people deserve to work in advertising." patay tayo dito. daming matatanggal sa trabaho pag nagkataon.
agency conceit nga naman. LOL
I'm sorry. I should have been more clear for our slower friends.
I was being sarcastic.
"I'm sorry. I should have been more clear for our slower friends.
I was being sarcastic."
hahaha. owned si anonymous.
Which TSISMAX Blogger are you?
A.The anti-expat-who-can't-speak-straight-english-and-thinks-people-who-do-are-evil
B. The pinoy-patriot-who-hates-expats-because-he's-being-mistreated-by-one
C.The guy-who-just-has-to-lash-out-on-everyone-because-he-has-enough-hatred-for-the-whole-world-thanks-to-his-tragic-childhood
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E.The guy-who-thinks-he's-so-cool-for-having-a-life-outside-of-advertsising-but-doesn't-realize-he's-making-300%-less-than-the-guy-who's-obsessed-with-advertising
F.The guy-who's-obsessed-with-advertising-he-bothers-to-read-this-blog
G.The consumer-who-just-doesn't-get-it
H.The creative-who-hasn't-won-awards-hates-creatives-who-have-and-copes-by-saying-the-award-winning-work-is-a-scam
I.The creative-who-has-won-awards-and-thinks-he's-above-everyone-else-but-is-secretly-miserable-because-he-knows-awards-don't-really-add-to-one's-happiness
J.The expat ECD
K.The ad-agency-finance-guy-who's-always-getting-dragged-into-some-kind-of-mess-involving-ads-awards-clients-consumers-when-all-he-wants-to-do-is-go-home-at-six-and-one-a-year-dance-infront-of-everyone-at-the-christmas-party-and-win-the-biggest-prize
L.The alcoholic-who's-looking-for-any-reason-to-drink
Merry Christmas Tsismax Bloggers!
M.The-guy-who-has-no-life-whatsover-that-he-has-to-post-a-long-comment-on-Christmas-day-at-one-fiftyfive-in-the-morning
tee hee. you got me bigfreud. it's sad AND true...
x. the guy/girl/between who has inside info on the dirt of the industry and will tell all here.
littlefreud and bigfreud:
your comments are hilarious! ;)
strangely enough, little freud, almost every archetype in your post fits Roger Pe.
I should email my pal about it.
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